Football expert @SamRCox_ tackles the Jose Mourinho vs Arsene Wenger debate but who comes out on top?


  • Jose Mourinho and Arsene Wenger are two of the greatest managers of the 21st century

  • Contrasting personalities and coaches, the pair were fierce rivals for prolonged period

  • We’ve pitted Arsene Wenger vs Jose Mourinho below – but who gets our vote?


Jose Mourinho and Arsene Wenger were natural rivals. Mourinho arrived in the Premier League ready to upset the established order, making Wenger a clear target for the Portuguese provocateur.

Their footballing ideals were/are galaxies apart – the ultra-pragmatism of Mourinho a clear contrast with the philosophical Wenger.

This was all conducted in the already fearsome arena of a London rivalry between Chelsea and Arsenal. Mourinho was an instant success in England, as Wenger had been years before.

It took the Frenchman 14 attempts to secure a win against his Portuguese foe, and he finished with just 0.68 points per match when duelling with Mourinho.

For context, that figure was 1.18 when facing Alex Ferguson, 1.27 versus Mauricio Pochettino and 0.86 against Pep Guardiola.

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The story of Jose Mourinho vs Arsene Wenger goes far deeper than title races and touchline confrontations, though. Both endured spells where they were in the discussion to be the next Premier League manager to leave.

Of course, it is a debate that has become reality for Mourinho on multiple occasions, departing Chelsea (twice), Manchester United and Tottenham in acrimonious circumstances.

The Rivalry

Chelsea were on the charge when they hired Mourinho in 2003. Money was being spent at an unprecedented rate, and Roman Abramovich had set his sights on breaking up the Arsenal and Manchester United duopoly.

Wenger had already done his best work when Mourinho arrived, winning doubles, overseeing an Invincible season, and forging a rivalry with Ferguson.

Mourinho was a genius in the biggest matches, an area late-career Wenger often struggled in.

Mourinho’s record against Wenger was the most extreme example of this, and he took great joy in firing shots at the Arsenal manager, with ‘specialist in failure’ becoming the most famous of his countless barbs.

The most devastating moment in their direct contests was Mourinho’s Chelsea hammering Wenger’s Arsenal 6-0 in his 1000th match.

The tension continued into Mourinho’s spell at Old Trafford, though it was lacking the intensity of his days at Stamford Bridge. The stakes were lower, with both sides far from favourites for the title in online betting.

For all the drama of Mourinho versus Wenger and its soap-opera-style coverage on the touchline, it would be an oversight to reduce this rivalry to the matches against each other.

Respective Successes

Wenger has three league titles and seven FA Cups. Where Mourinho’s career could be compared to a world tour, Wenger opted for a more settled existence.

As a result, a direct comparison of trophies only tells a portion of the Mourinho vs Wenger tale.

Mourinho’s eight league titles, two Champions Leagues and two UEFA Cup/Europa League wins are both a mark of his relentless winning during his prime and a reflection of a short-term manager.

The contrast in trophy haul is partly a choice. It’s also a clear representation of their personalities. The consistent, calm Wenger kept things ticking over in north London through the loss of key players and a costly stadium move.

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Mourinho is a fierier character, a manager addicted to winning, which brought some sensational highs and equally brutal lows.

As of June 2022, Wenger has managed over 600 matches more than Mourinho.

The latter is still only 59 and will close that gap over the years, but even after a Conference League triumph with Roma, there are murmurs that he could be on the move again.

Wenger’s longevity is a feat in itself. There was plenty of deserved criticism at the time, yet how he kept the Gunners in the top four was impressive.

Mourinho is notoriously impatient, chasing silverware and rarely willing to wait on players to develop. Wenger was patient to a fault, often placing too much faith in players and not always possessing that same insatiable drive for silverware.

In a shootout on medals accumulated, Mourinho’s career is hard to match. He is miles ahead of Wenger, though the Frenchman achieved consistency and stability at Arsenal in a way that Mourinho has never managed.

Where Mourinho’s legacy is cemented in the record books, Wenger’s is less quantifiable.

A nod should be given to Wenger’s French title with Monaco. If we want to delve deeper into individual accolades, Wenger has almost five times as many Premier League Manager of the Month awards.

He also won the Onze d’Or Coach of the Year in four of five years at the start of the century. Fittingly, it was Mourinho who ended that run with his lone win coming in 2005.

Back in the sphere of Premier League predictions, they are tied on three Manager of the Season awards apiece, though Mourinho also won the equivalent award twice in Spain and twice in Italy.

Mourinho vs Wenger - Verdict

Wenger achieved things at Arsenal that Mourinho has not and arguably could not. Mourinho took Europe by storm with Porto, made Chelsea one of the most successful clubs in England, and made history with Inter and Real Madrid.

Both endured decline. Wenger’s teams became almost a parody of themselves, yet he collected FA Cups through his final seasons.

Mourinho’s prickly nature has often slipped from motivating to problematic. Their respective, and vastly different, styles of play have seemed outdated at times.

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Still, Mourinho has also found ways to win trophies, lifting a third league title at Chelsea, the Europa League with Manchester United and guiding Roma to their first piece of continental silverware.

There is considerable subjectivity to a discussion of this ilk. It ultimately comes down to taste in personality, style of play and what an individual values most from a manager when there is so little to choose between them.

Both are unquestionably in the top five greatest Premier League managers ever.

Perhaps Wenger’s 1,235 matches in charge of Arsenal give him the edge in that category, but Mourinho’s glories around Europe will probably be enough to put him ahead of Wenger in the all-time rankings when he finally calls it a day.


 

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Sam is a sports tipster, specialising in the Premier League and Champions League.

He covers most sports, including cricket and Formula One. Sam particularly enjoys those on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean – notably MLB and NBA.

Watching, writing and talking about sports betting takes up most of his time, whether that is for a day out at T20 Finals Day or a long night of basketball.

Having been writing for several years, Sam has been working with 888Sport since 2016, contributing multiple articles per week to the blog.

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888sport ambassador Neil Callan (@neilcallan78) gives his Day 4 tips and best bets ahead of Friday at Royal Ascot...


Rising Star

Wednesday was amazing. Rising Star had been running consistently but it was obviously a surprise that she won. There’s no room for error at Royal Ascot and everything just fell perfectly for her. Those are the sort of days you want.

Ascot is the Mecca of racing and if there’s any place to put your name up then it’s there. I’d been away for a long time and you have to build things up again.

I knew the filly, I’d ridden her a couple of times and I always said to Marco [Botti] that she needs everything to go right. She can over-race if they go too slow and if they go too quick, she sometimes doesn’t finish her race off.

After a furlong and a half, we’d got into a great position from stall 17 and it was just whether she was good enough at the end.

I had the option to go round them or save ground up the inside. Turning in, I had loads under me, so I felt it was best to stay there. She arrived there so easy and she had that kick at the end.

It’s great that it worked out and it’s great to be part of the team with Marco. I was thrilled for everyone at the yard – it means so much to all of them.

It was also nice to get the prize off Barry [Geraghty], my fellow 888sport ambassador. You couldn’t make it up!


Albany Stakes – 2:30

Like I’ve said all week, the two-year-old races are difficult to get a proper handle on as they haven’t met each other yet.

Meditate has won both her starts for Ballydoyle so she has to be respected. I was very impressed with Mawj at Newmarket.

Saeed bin Suroor hasn’t had many decent two-year-olds in recent years, but this one could be.


Commonwealth Cup – 3:05

This race has been a great addition to the calendar as it gives the three-year-old sprinters the chance to win a Group 1 against their own age group before testing themselves in races like the July Cup.

Twilight Jet is a very good horse on his day. He won well at Naas last month and I can see him running a big race, but I’d say Perfect Power is the one they all have to beat.

The filly I won on at Bath last weekend [Royal Aclaim] actually beat him in a novice at Newcastle last year, but he’s obviously improved massively since then.

The key thing for him is coming back to six furlongs as he didn’t seem to get home in the Guineas. He won the Norfolk last year and then followed up in the Prix Morny and Middle Park, so we know he’s a top class sprinter.

You can’t rule out El Caballo either for Karl Burke, he’s won six in a row. Karl’s horses have been running really well and Dramatised showed how good she is when winning the Queen Mary on Wednesday.

This lad did well in the Sandy Lane and even though he’ll have to step forward to win this, you couldn’t rule that out.  


Duke Of Edinburgh Stakes – 3:40

Another really hard mile and a half Ascot handicap. Just Fine is the obvious one for The Queen and Sir Michael Stoute after his fine third at the Dante meeting. I’m sure he’s been kept back for this since then.

Contact has won his last two and Mashhoor won well at the Curragh last month for Johnny Murtagh.


Coronation Stakes – 4:20

This is one of the races of the week. It’s hugely competitive and you could give a good chance to five or six of them.

Inspiral was a brilliant two-year-old and was favourite for the Guineas all winter, but she wasn’t right and connections took the correct decision to wait for this.

She’s a very good filly and deserves to be favourite, but she won’t have it all her own way first time up.

Cachet was excellent in the Guineas and then ran a cracker to be second to Mangoustine in the French Guineas who she takes on again in this.

Discoveries can go well and I also wouldn’t rule out Prosperous Voyage. It’s a very interesting race.


Sandringham Stakes – 5:00

Richard Hannon’s Heredia is unbeaten and she’s very good. I was third to her at York and was really impressed with how she did it.

I thought she looked like a Group 3 horse that day. She’s definitely got improvement in her as well so she’s one for the shortlist.

Charlie Fellowes and Hayley Turner have won two of the last three runnings of this race and they team up with Fresh Hope who should run well.


King Edward VII Stakes – 5:35

Changingonftheguard ran well to finish fifth in the Derby. I said after Chester that I thought he’d be a future Gold Cup horse.

The stiff track will suit him, it’s just if he’s recovered from Epsom. I can definitely see him running in a Gold Cup in a year or two.  

The dangers are Ottoman Fleet and Lysander but again, this isn’t a very strong running of the King Edward VII.


Palace Of Holyroodhouse Stakes – 6:10

I wouldn’t really know where to start with this to be honest – a 30-runner five furlong handicap!

Korker bolted up at York last month and Karl Burke won this race last year, so he should give you a run for your money.


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June 16, 2022

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Expert Steve Mullington gives his daily racing tips, including a NAP, NB and a Longshot. Scroll down now to find out horse racing tips Saturday 18th June at Royal Ascot...


Today's NAP (Best Bet)

3.40 Ascot – Third Realm

Third Realm bounced back to form in grand style last time out, coasting to a six-length success in the Tapster Stakes at Goodwood, and can be taken to do exactly the same thing here in the Hardwicke Stakes.

Until that Goodwood romp, Roger Varian’s four-year-old out of Sea The Stars, had not won in five starts since beating the subsequent Derby winner Adayar in Lingfield’s Derby Trial last year.

Leger winner and Arc third Hurricane Lane is understandably the bookmaker’s favourite but he is without a run this season and Third Realm may just do him for match sharpness and fitness.

Today's NB (Next Best)

3.05 Ascot – Star Girls Aalmal

Star Girls Aalmal is a rare Royal meeting runner for Henry de Bromhead and she can take top honours in this Group 3 Jersey Stakes over seven furlongs.

Horse Racing Tips Saturday 18th June


The Elzaam-filly brings classic form to the party in the shape of her fourth place finish in the Irish 1000 Guineas.

Star Girls Aalmal has proven to be a shrewd acquisition by her owner John Phelan who bought her out of the Goffs Online Sale in November 2020 for just €8,000 and has already amassed five times that in prize money thus far.

Today's Longshot

5.00 Ascot – Batwan

When racing in France first resumed behind closed doors in May 2000, I recall tipping Batwan at ParisLongchamp and he duly obliged at 11/1.

Since then he has enjoyed further successes and under his new trainer Nicolas Caullery, he scored two victories on the turf at Meydan.

A Chantilly run at the beginning of May should have blown away any cobwebs and at odds of 40/1 he’s an interesting each-way outsider for those of you placing your horse race bets online

Other live outsiders to consider in this monster field are sprint regular Summerghand for the in-form O’Meara stable, and Commanche Falls who won the Stewards’ Cup last season.


*Credit for all of the photos in this article belongs to AP Photo*

 

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June 16, 2022

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    Steven is a sports and horse racing enthusiast and is a member of the Horseracing Writers and Photographers Association (HWPA) in the United Kingdom.

    He is a regular visitor to Paris Longchamp for the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe and a lifelong fan of the Aintree Grand National, a subject he writes about 52 weeks of the year. Last year he reached the impressive milestone of attending the last 30 renewals of the Grand National.

    Steven graduated from the University Of Lancaster in 1996 with a B.A (Hons) in Urban Policy & Race Relations (major) with Contemporary Religions & Belief Systems (minor) and still wonders if any of these help him find the winners?

    He writes for a number of websites and online publications and you can sometimes hear him at the weekend discussing racing on a number of local radio stations. 

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    • The Premier League fixtures were released on June 16th

    • It’s an unusual campaign with a mid-season break for the World Cup in Qatar

    • We’ve picked out 10 key dates from the 2022-23 Premier League campaign below


    The day of the Premier League fixtures being released is a big step in the transition from the previous season to the next.

    It helps to inform those making outright football bets, and gives fans an opportunity to speculate about the easier and tougher patches in the schedule.

    We have picked through the Premier League fixtures for 2022-23 to identify 10 key dates on the calendar.

    5th-7th August: Opening Weekend

    The season kicks off with Arsenal at Crystal Palace for Friday Night Football on August 5th.

    It’s a shortened summer for Premier League clubs with the World Cup forcing the season to start slightly earlier than it would have otherwise done.

    Fulham host Liverpool in Saturday’s early kick-off, a fierce challenge on their return to the top flight.

    Fellow promoted sides Bournemouth and Nottingham Forest are in action at home to Aston Villa and away to Newcastle respectively.

    Favourites to win the title in the latest Premier League odds, Manchester City have to wait until Sunday to get their season underway against West Ham, while Erik ten Hag’s first Premier League match in charge is at home to Brighton.

    3rd September: Everton vs Liverpool, Manchester United vs Arsenal

    Under a month into the season, we get our first Merseyside derby.

    All 20 Premier League teams will have been in action in midweek, and the clubs in continental competition will be just a few days from their first round of group stage matches.

    Everton welcome Liverpool to Goodison Park, while Mikel Arteta takes his Arsenal side to Old Trafford.

    This follows matches against Liverpool and Leicester for Manchester United, who have a tough start to the campaign. Ten Hag could be under early pressure heading into this one.

    15th October: Liverpool vs Manchester City

    Following matchday four in the Champions League group stage, Liverpool and Manchester City meet for the first time in the season.

    Every prediction site is expecting another tight title race between Jurgen Klopp’s Reds and Pep Guardiola’s defending champions.

    With these teams dropping so few points, the head-to-head fixtures are particularly important.

    This round of matches also includes a clash between Fulham and Bournemouth, which could have an early impact on the relegation tussle.

    5th November: Chelsea vs Arsenal, Spurs vs Liverpool

    The condensed nature of the first half of this season means teams in European competition don’t have much time off.

    The fixtures scheduled for 5th November follow the final matchday in Champions League and Europa League group stages.

    Requests to avoid high-profile matches in the final week before the World Cup were followed, yet the penultimate matchday of the first half of the season includes Chelsea hosting Arsenal and Spurs accommodating Liverpool.

    If any of these teams are able to rotate in their midweek matches, it could provide a real advantage here.

    14th November: World Cup Hiatus

    Leeds away to Spurs and West Ham welcoming Leicester are the two standout fixtures from the final round before the World Cup. 

    We won’t have an outcome to most Premier League predictions by this point, but we are bound to have some surprises with overachievers and teams that have disappointed.

    26th December: Premier League Returns

    There have been adjustments to the Premier League’s festive schedule, but fans still have their fix of Boxing Day action after the World Cup.

    This will be like starting afresh for some. The top teams will see most of their players head to Qatar, but others will have a chance to recuperate and recover from injuries.

    Some in-form sides may struggle to find their groove again. Others will come back refreshed from the six-week hiatus.

    14th January: Derby Day

    The campaign should be back in rhythm by the time we get to 14th January. This could be the most entertaining weekend of the season with a Manchester derby and a north London derby taking place.

    There’s also the bonus of a London encounter between Chelsea and Crystal Palace, while Nottingham Forest reignite their rivalry with Leicester.

    This will be a fun weekend for neutrals. It will also potentially have a significant impact on the title and top four races.

    11th February: Rivalries Galore

    Less than a month later, we’ve got another weekend stacked with rivalry.

    There’s a Merseyside derby, West Ham welcome Chelsea to the London Stadium and Manchester United will face a fierce atmosphere on their trip to Elland Road.

    Spurs face a tricky trip to Leicester, while Manchester City should cruise to victory against Aston Villa.

    This is a weekend of potential slip ups for several teams in title/top four contention, and there’s what could be a relegation six-pointer between Fulham and Forest.

    29th April: Pivotal Fixtures

    There are just four matches left after the weekend of 29th April. Once again, this is a crucial moment in the season. Bournemouth face Leeds in a fixture which is likely to have a major impact on the fight for safety.

    If we’ve again got a close title race, Liverpool will be in a must-win position when they host a Spurs team who could well be battling to stay in the top four again.

    Chelsea visiting Arsenal is always a big match, but particularly so if they are as close in the table as they were towards the end of 2021-22.

    28th May: Final Day

    Will we get drama on the final day like we did in 2022? This is the day when way too early predictions are proven right or wrong. If it’s anything like the climax to 2021-22, we are in for a real treat.

    It’s hard to tell which fixtures will be of interest so far in advance, as it depends entirely on the table heading into matchday 38.

    Recent history suggests all eyes will be on Brentford hosting Manchester City and Liverpool on the road against Southampton, while Spurs face a potentially challenging trip to Leeds with Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal all at home. 

    All three newly promoted sides are away. Leicester matching up with West Ham could be pivotal in the competition for the final European spots.


     

     

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    Sam is a sports tipster, specialising in the Premier League and Champions League.

    He covers most sports, including cricket and Formula One. Sam particularly enjoys those on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean – notably MLB and NBA.

    Watching, writing and talking about sports betting takes up most of his time, whether that is for a day out at T20 Finals Day or a long night of basketball.

    Having been writing for several years, Sam has been working with 888Sport since 2016, contributing multiple articles per week to the blog.

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